First of all I would change the law of killing someone on purpose. If someone has killed someone and has got the punishment of (10) years I would change it 5 years more. I would have changed the years of punishment longer but I decided that everyone deserves a second chance. I thing that the punishment should not be to too strict. If we rehabilitate the crime maker that's not fair so I think we should rehabilitate the person injured. We should help them unless they are killed. We should give the criminal a second chance along with giving them a punishment at first. The laws should be a bit more vacant and clear. The law maker(s) should make the laws more like Mesopotamia's so that instead of making a mistake at first the criminal would be afraid. Many people chose the laws of Mesopotamia along with the laws of Canada. The laws should be changed a bit more other wise I think Canada is a great place.
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riya
1/15/2014 07:49:14 am
I like the way Canada has its law system, I wouldnt change it very much, but I do have a suggestion. My suggestion is to not let them off so easily, they shouldnt just get a warning. Even if it was an accident or on purpose, they should have to do something, like signing papers, promising and commiting not to do whatever it is they did wrong. I wouldnt exactly make it more like mesopotamias, just because I believe their law system was a bit harsh on the people because they would consider death an option. In a way, I would make it slightly a bit more mesopotamias because in the debate we had, there were some pretty good points on mesopotamias system. I wouldnt make it so that people would have to die, but just a little more sharp so they would know that they have to follow the laws, and there is a punishment for breaking them. I think a good way to let someone know to be a good citizen is saying if they break the law more than two times, they would have to be relocated. Depending on how bad the crime was, they could be relocated from another area (city) to another country. I don't really think we can "fix up" offenders because if they are commiting alot of crimes, it usually relates to something happening in their life, I don't think the government relly has the ability to fix anything like life problems. My ideal system would basically be like Canadas, but as I mensioned before, a bit more sharp. If people broke the law, they would have to go to court depending on what it was, pay a big fine, or just get warned not to do it again. But no matter what they did, they would have to sign a bunch of papers promising and agreeing never to do it again or anything similar to it. If someone has signed a paper and has done it again, or something similar, they will be relocated possibaly to another city, province, or even country depending on how bad it was. If they have still committed crimes in the other places, then they should be sent to antarctica, to live there for the rest of their (short) life. The reason the Laws are like this is because for not obeying the law, they should be punished because, that is not fair to other people and they should respect the law. Also it is designed this way is because people should deserve another chance because if it were you, you'd want a second chance.
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Anthony Uch
1/15/2014 08:36:32 am
One thing that I agree with is that Canada's laws are a little unfair. The punishments to the offenders are not harsh enough. I think that if an offender were to break a law repeatedly times they would get a much harsher punishment so they would think about breaking a law again. The punishment for breaking major laws should be more harsh but at the same time not as harsh as Mesopotamia's laws as to where people mostly fear them. I also agree at how somebody said that prison is better compared to homeless people, I think that prison should be a little bit more rough and unkind. I think Canada's legal system should be in between Canada's laws and Mesopotamia's laws, harsh but not to harsh. I think that offenders should get rougher punishments but instead of Mesopotamia where one broken law could lead to death or drowning if the offender were to break multiple laws they probably be killed. I think that if a offender were to commit multiple crimes, around 1-2 they would be sentenced to death. I think that youth should also get punishments but they are a lot less harsh and if they were to break more laws to up to 5 they would be sentenced to death but only if they were big laws. I think that small and minor laws would have the same punishments as now but the other laws would have their punishments much, much more rough. I also think that more laws could be added.
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Chris
1/15/2014 09:03:36 am
I think that the legal system should be changed. Reasons why it should be changed is that you could be set free, just jail, no execution, and you could be let free all the time and there would be no justice. It would be nicer to change some of the rules because when something lethal happened to somebody and you found the guy, then you really would like to do something's the same that happened to someone close to you. Rules in Canada are not very strict because if you are a poor guy or not enough money to pay mortgage so they would have to steal or rob but when you get caught, you get put into jail but you have food and shelter to live off of. If something bad had happened to you or others in Mesopotamia, then they would die or lose something valuable or something close to them for an equivalent exchange.
If I had my own system, I would run it like Mesopotamia but also some of Canada's laws too. I would make minor crimes deal with 4 years of jail with no bed and you would have to get your own food and if it was something really bad that someone did, then that would result in death . I would have commoners hired and inspect my civilization or city and see if there was any negative activities under my care or going around my back then I would have reinforcements go and attack that part where there is negative activities. I am a peaceful person so I think it would best to talk to people on why they shouldn't be killed and see if they are not guilty but will see if they have any criminal records. I think the best option for Canada is you mix their laws with Mesopotamia's.
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Gurvir Chana
1/15/2014 09:16:32 am
I think the Canadian government should be more like the Mesopotamians because if you commit a crime in Canada you just go to jail for a few years and come out. once the criminal is out of jail he will most likely commit one more crime and go to jail and come back out. so in Canada you don't really learn your lesson if you commit a crime or break the law. But in Mesopotamia its a lot different if you commit a crime there or in Canada. In Mesopotamia if you commit a crime or break the law you will wish you never broke the law or committed a crime because if you do break the law, you will have a death penalty. If you hit your elders your arm will be chopped off. I like this government because it teaches people that if you do something bad this will happen to you. So the Mesopotamia government scares people so the will not break the law or they will think twice before doing something bad. So the Meso government scares people so there is less crime on the streets. And Mesopotamia doesn't put people in jail because they will commit another crime. They want to make sure that nobody breaks the law again and if they do they serve there death.
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Maggie
1/15/2014 09:29:12 am
I would make canada change in their legal system. I would say that a person who kills a dad's family member and they find that person they will kill that person's family member. Also when a rich person hurt a poor person or a wealthy person then they pay the wealthy or poor person half of a million dollars.Or when a rich person hurts a rich person then the rich that got hurt by the person that got hurt. Also if a person steals something from another person, they can either have them lose a hand or take back twice what was taken. If children beat up other children (bullying) then the parents have to attend and teach their children not to be bullies. If a person starts a fire, they have to help fight the fire. If a child talks back to his father and says he is not his, the dad can cut off his hair and make him a slave. If a father says a child is not his, the child has to leave the house and loses everything.
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Sufyan
1/15/2014 09:49:29 am
I think right now it's fair, but I don't like the idea of not having equal punishment for both Canada and Mesopotamia. For example if a noble person purposely or accidentally injured a commoner I think that the noble person should have the same thing done to them. If I could change Canada's system I would make the punishments more harsher so that people are taught a lesson and less crimes are committed. I wouldn't want to control them by fear because that would kind of be dictatorship which causes trouble sometimes. My system would be: If someone were injured by someone purposely else they also be injured or fined. If someone killed someone else they would spend their life in jail, put to work, and their families would have to pay a huge fine depending on how the victim was murdered. And I believe this would prevent crimes because if they were put to death then someone would try to take revenge and probably assassinate a noble.
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Vickram Dhillon
1/15/2014 09:54:29 am
I like Canada's where they don't do harsh punishments but sometimes harsh things are the right thing to do. Mesopotamia's punishments taught people to beware the consequences of certain crimes. I don't think that Canada should try to make the laws more like Mesopotamia because the punishments are too harsh. I think Canada should stick with jail time and fines. My ideal system would be death penalties to crimes like murders., sexual abuse, etc. If someone did a simple crime like rob a store, they spend 5 years in prison and 180 hours of community service. If that person kept on repeat those crimes, he/she would be killed. If someone was selling some drugs on the corner,he/she would be given a warning. If child were to attack their parents the parent would have person to spank the kid, but no harsh beatings. If someone was a pimp, he would pay $10,000 to every women and after that he would be hanged. I would give death penalties for bad crimes and it wouldn't matter if you were wealth or poor.
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Aaron W
1/15/2014 10:21:27 am
No, I would not make changes in the Canada's legal system. The first reason is that Mesopotamia's is not fair, it included in the innocent people too, like the builder's son. The second reason is that Canada's law system prevent wars and instead of killing more people, it put offenders in jail so they could not do any more harm. My ideal system is like this. It's mostly like Canada's system. When the offender broke the law, it put them in jail, the more times the person broke the law, the more worse the punishment is, so its fair. It's also judged by what the person did. The first time they broke the law, they are put in jail. The second time, the jail time is longer. The third time, they are going to be tortured. And the fourth time the person would be considered unteachable, and will eventually, he will be put to death to make sure no more harm is done.
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Brandon ( Booga Boo)
1/15/2014 10:27:34 am
Changes that i would make to Canada's government is that I would make it more strict. For example not only would you go to jail but according to the crime that you did you would get caning. SO say if you robbed a store maybe you would get 3 canes. But if you severely injured someone say like break 3 bones you would get 10 canes. Another thing i would change is that if you are a child offender you have to be tracked for 3 years just in case if you do a child offense you can be caught. Another thing I would change is that if you kill someone you would get killed back the same way you killed the person. The last thing that i would have in my civilization is that if you are homeless or the judge decides that you benefit off of going to jail they will send you to a camp. This camp will be somewhere in the forest with walls. Its basically a low maintenance jail. In this jail you would have to sleep in tents and the food you were given were the most plain things. For example for lunch u just get 2 bread and a slice of cheese in between. You would also be forced to do work doing heavy labor. Like logging and mining. But since it was a punishment to be working you wouldn't be gaining anything but less jail jail time. But for every hour you work in the mines and logging places you would get 10 minutes taken off of your sentence. This is how my government would be like.
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Jovan
1/15/2014 01:04:25 pm
Nice law system.
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Aaron W
1/27/2014 09:53:25 am
Concentration camp!
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Divya
1/15/2014 11:08:27 am
I would and wouldn't make changes to the Canada's legal system. I would not make it like Mesopotamia's because there law is a lot harsher and is not very fair. Yes we should try to rehabilitate offenders. If someone committed a crime I would put them in jail for a minimum of 4 and a half years. If someone stole I would get them to pay the amount of money for the thing that they stole. Plus $20. If someone is homeless I would provide the homeless with food or get the government to provide the homeless with food. If someone beat someone up I would get them in a 2 week facility, they would talk to them about beating up people and how it affects others. If somebody needs a flu shot at the last minute but didn't book an appointment I would get the nurse to give it to them. If someone destroys property they would get sentenced for 1 and a half years in jail. If someone is immigrating from another country I would try to make them feel as if they were at home. I would also make sure that all health care was given to everybody. If someone complains about a product I would give them a new product, or I would get someone to fix it for them. The final thing that I would do is make sure that everybody received an education.
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Navraj
1/15/2014 11:58:56 am
If I had it my way, I'd change the laws so if you stole some thing, you would get a 10 year to lifetime jail sentences, depending on what you stole. Also, I like Mesopotamia's "eye for eye" thing. It should be like that in Canada. Because then if you hurt someone, you would suffer the exact same thing, and see how it badly it hurts. By doing that, Canada's crimes will go down, since the criminals know that if they get caught killing someone, they will get executed. Also, the criminals will start to leave the country because they will be afraid of being arrested. The Canadian laws are all so messed up because if a person commits a crime and goes to jail for 2 years, they could get out and commit a larger crime than before, and then keep committing crimes until they get caught again, and then commit more crimes when they get out, and the cycle begins again. Also, if you were to be a homeless person and you committed a crime, you would go to jail, where you get food, water, and shelter, luxuries that you couldn't usually afford. That is why I think the Canadian laws should be changed.
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Karmin
1/15/2014 12:46:51 pm
Would you make changes to Canada’s legal system?
The law affects nearly every aspect of our lives every day. On one hand, we have laws to deal with crimes such as robbery or murder and other threats and challenges to society. On the other hand, laws regulate common activities such as driving a car, renting an apartment, getting a job or getting married. Understanding the law, and the ideas and principles behind it, is every Canadian's business. So if I had the option of making changes to Canada’s legal system I wouldn’t really because to me it is fair, but it is just a matter of my opinion. I believe that the judges are appointed by the federal or provincial/territorial governments, depending on the level of court. To be appointed by the federal government to a superior court, the Federal Court, or the Supreme Court, a candidate must have been a lawyer for at least ten years. Judges appointed to provincial/territorial superior courts must also be qualified to practice law in the jurisdiction in question. For these reasons to me it seems like the decisions that will be made are fair and based on evidence. As well, I would like to mention there is also a magistrate’s bench. Historically, magistrates were retired police officers, but they are now lawyers appointed by the lieutenant-governor-in-council. Magistrates are known today as provincial court judges; they are judicial officers with summary jurisdiction in both criminal and civil actions, hearing minor indictable offences and those cases where the accused may elect the mode of trial. They may preside over family court or small-claims court, and are ex officio commissioners for oaths. For these reasons I believe that the legal system of Canada is efficient and fair.
Would you make it like Mesopotamia’s?
I indeed would not make it like Mesopotamia’s, for I see that the punishments are too cruel and the whole idea of being based on “an eye for an eye” is a bit overdone. It also states that in Mesopotamia people could be put to death, lose an eye or a limb, be tortured, or have their children put to death, sometimes for small crimes. That to me seems like injustice. If you destroy a noble’s eye, than your eye will be destroyed. I agree this is an example of equality. But if a noble destroys the eye of a commoner, he shall pay one mina of silver or if a noble destroys the eye of a noble’s slave, he shall pay half the slave’s value, it is just not fair. When there is differential between nobility there is no more equality. I agree they have more power, but a live is a live, as an eye an eye. They can have power in Canada, like they can be figure heads like the prime minister for example. If they are killed the punishment will remain the same for the death of the prime minister and the death of someone who is middle classed, if of course they have the same criminal record, age, etc. What I’m trying to saying is no I would not like to make the Canadian legal system like Mesopotamia’s because there is not as much equality and a right to a fair trial in Mesopotamia, but in Canada there is. Another reason I would not like to make it like Mesopotamia’s is because there isn’t any chance given to second chances. Because we all make a mistake in our lives one way or another and if given the chance to reflect and fix that mistake and start over, you’ll be surprised to see how a person can change for the better. Talking about second chances and understanding reminds me that in Canada they consider if the offender is a youth or an adult and I’m mentioning this because I believe that a child is not mentally capable of thinking to bring death to one another, so they should not be punished and so the person who had been despising that child into doing so should be. But in Mesopotamia that was not the case, therefore I would not like to make Canada’s legal system like Mesopotamia’s.
Should we try to rehabilitate offenders?
No, because recent study shows that the offender treatment is effective in reducing recidivism and criminal victimization. Appropriate treatments were found to reduce recidivism an average of 50% compared to inappropriate treatments. These are the programs that systematically assess offender risk and needs with objective instruments, target the criminogenic needs of offenders in treatment and use cognitive-behavioral approaches to influence behaviour. Programs categorized as inappropriate, for example, intensive programs that dealt with low risk offenders and targeted non-criminogenic needs such as self-esteem demonstrated no reductions in recidivism. Inappropriate treatments were actually associated with slight increases in recidivism. A similar pattern of results was found for criminal justice sanctions. That is, more severe sanctions did not reduce re-offending but increased recidivism. Further, an analysis of specific types of sanctions fou
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Jovan
1/15/2014 01:03:42 pm
I definitely think that criminals deserve stricter punishments. They don't deserve second chances. If you kill someone, you deserve to die. You actually probably deserve worse. This is basically what's happening if you kill someone. You get 5-10 years jail time, during which you get 3 meals a day and a cozy cot. And any time during your sentence someone can bail you out, and you've got a killer back on the loose. Ask anyone who has been a victim of crime if criminals deserve stricter punishments, they will all agree with you. I think that criminals are being let off too easy. Murderers deserve to die. We need to control crime through fear. We most force respect and equality of others. You can try to put criminals in rehab, but it won't work. We need to have an eye for eye system. You kill someone, you die. You rob a store, you pay back the amount you stole and go to jail. We must control crime, not let crime control us. We must force respect. Criminals get off way to easy. I think that murderers should be killed, and criminals should be locked away for good. The eye for an eye system controls crime, generates less violence, and forces respect. Death to criminals! Or at least the murderers.
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Priya Mann
1/15/2014 01:05:16 pm
I would make changes to Canada's legal system. Those changes would be by making the laws more harsh. If someone is doing something wrong they should be punished badly because they will realize what they did wrong and will never do such a thing ever again. With Canada's laws they will get a very small punishment, for example being sent to jail. If people are just sent to jail and get another chance they will obviously not realize what they did wrong and they will do something bad or wrong again. I think the biggest change would be this because it is way better than giving another chance. I would make it more like Mesopotamia and Hammurabia because both have big punishments for people who break laws and do something wrong. I don't think we should try to rehabilitate offenders because I don't think it would be good. This is my ideal system with big punishments for bad people to get them to realize their mistake. This is probably the best decision because fear can always get the truth out of people and punish them.
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John
1/15/2014 01:08:31 pm
I think Canada's government system should not be like Mesopotamia's, because Canada is a modern country unlike Mesopotamia. Mesopotamia's law has been written thousands and thousands of years ago. Canada should give people chances unless they do something really bad like trying to assassinate the prime minister. The building law is not fair at all what if a storm hit the house or an earthquake happened and the house collapses on the kid the king should have no right to kill the builders son, the builder cannot control the natural disasters that happen. The king has made mistakes I bet because what if a poor person gets killed for doing things they did not do and since the person is poor they cannot complain and this law is not in the textbook but I have a feeling that if you complain and say I did not do it and they suspect you are lying they will kill you, which is not fair. Well I kind of agree that Canada needs to make our government system a little stricter because a person can lie and say that they have mental issues and do not have to go to jail and they will kill a whole bunch of people and they cannot do anything now in Mesopotamia those people will be scared to kill other people and crime will go down. For me Canada should not kill my strictness would be just keeping the people for 100 year/forever and giving them little food and no beds and a really dirty wash room.
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Karmin
1/15/2014 01:42:29 pm
It continues from here:
Should we try to rehabilitate offenders?
No, because recent study shows that the offender treatment is effective in reducing recidivism and criminal victimization. Appropriate treatments were found to reduce recidivism an average of 50% compared to inappropriate treatments. These are the programs that systematically assess offender risk and needs with objective instruments, target the criminogenic needs of offenders in treatment and use cognitive-behavioral approaches to influence behaviour. Programs categorized as inappropriate, for example, intensive programs that dealt with low risk offenders and targeted non-criminogenic needs such as self-esteem demonstrated no reductions in recidivism. Inappropriate treatments were actually associated with slight increases in recidivism. A similar pattern of results was found for criminal justice sanctions. That is, more severe sanctions did not reduce re-offending but increased recidivism. Further, an analysis of specific types of sanctions found no one type of sanction particularly effective in reducing recidivism. Regardless of whether the offenders were subjected to longer prison sentences, boot camps, random drug testing, and the like, none showed reductions in recidivism approaching the results found with appropriate offender rehabilitation programs. Research shows that treatment of offenders does make a difference. Offenders who receive treatment are less likely to re-offend. Offenders who don't receive treatment are likely to re-offend at a rate of 17% compared to 10% for offenders who have received treatment. Indeed, most offenders do not re-offend after a certain age. So there is another way to reduce the number of crimes.
Describe your ideal system in a minimum of 10 sentences.
If I were to make an ideal legal system it wouldn’t be much different then Canada’s. I for one agree with majority of the laws, some of them do seem a bit unfair but those laws have to be in place to keep law and order. I know that most people think that the ideal legal system would be one where people are treated harshly, given very low rations of food, etc, but imagine if it were you and you were in desperate need of money so you committed a crime for somebody would you want to be in a state of understanding and the belief of giving second chances or be lead to the doors of hell like in Mesopotamia. I know it seems like they committed a crime and should be treated harshly and be sentenced to death, but there could be a reason behind it all that requires understanding and maybe they were actually being accused for something they didn’t do by perhaps someone like a noble who has more power and authority than a slave for instance. I believe our ideal justice system should be indiscriminate and the punishments should be even for all ethnicities and social economic groups. An aspect of Mesopotamia’s justice system which has infuriated me is the idea that it caters to the wealthy and unfairly targets those who are less financially stable. This is a brief overview of how my ideal legal system would work.
I believe that Canada's system of law is far better than Mesopotamia's but if I had to make changes to Canada's laws, I would want to change their way of punishment. I think that jail is okay but sometimes their citizens might do something more cruel and unforgivable things to others. I am definitely not talking about putting them to their death but something a little bit more things to make up for what that cruel person did like having to go to prison for half of your life. So a little bit like Mesopotamia but not as brutal. I think to try to rehabilitate offenders is pointless because to try to know what is going on in their life and being involved in a tangled business that no one wants to get into. Their life might be complicated enough to understand or hard to try to fix their problems. Many people don't change from the help they get from others. If I would make my own laws I would want it to be very equal so there would be no social scale so then no one would get more attention than the others/commoners. If you did a crime such as stealing you would have 2 years of jail but if they took innocent lives of others that criminal would have to go to prison for half of their lives. I would want my system to be very understand and that take second chances but that has a little bit of a more harsh punishment.I want mine to be understand because there is always another side of the story and no one should be killed for what they have probably not done.It shows a sign of humanity and not make it seem like we are wild animals that just want to kill our opponents. A harsh system also causes more need of wars that fight for this equality.
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Harman
1/15/2014 01:56:24 pm
I wouldn't make that many changes to Canada's legal system. The thing i would change is just to make the rules a little more stricter. Also if there were to be a prisoner that had made his/her second mistake then i think they should get a more harsher and stricter punishment. I wouldn't make it like the same as Mesopotamia. All i would do is just make the rules a little more strict not to strict but not to gentle either. My ideal system would never have a law that just kills the person right on the spot because for all we the person could be innocent or maybe didn't do it on purpose. Even if there were to be a very strict punishment it absolutely wouldn't be death. If the person was to be rich they shouldn't just get 2 years of jail if the actual punishment is supposed to be like 6 years. If the person were to be poor they shouldn't get a punishment that is like is 4 years long and maybe its real punishment is to be like about 2 years long or even less. The punishments should be equal no matter if the are wealthy or not wealthy.There should be no difference between the rich and the poor.
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Sanam
1/15/2014 02:10:49 pm
I believe that Canada has a better law then Mesopotamia because Canada gives a second chance. Also because woman and man are equally treated in Canada without any hesitation. On the other hand Mesopotamia's government is more harsh on men and woman especially men. For example, if the son slaps the dad that is very disrespectful, the son should get punished. But the son shouldn't have to cut his hand off. In Mesopotamia these situations would take place. In my opinion, every human has there own equal rights which no one can take away. A noble person should get treated the same way as a slave because we are all humans and have an equal amount of rights. Mesopotamia's laws are ancient and their thoughts were very old. In Canada its more modernized we have experienced many situations before. In conclusion, Canada has a respectful rather than Mesopotamia's fearful laws.
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Ria
1/15/2014 02:44:52 pm
I think that Canada's law system should change a little bit. Because Mesopotamia's law system is more harsh than Canada's law system, but Mesopotamia's law system teaches criminals a lesson of what crime they did, like when a noble takes out another noble's eye they would have the same punishment as what the other noble has. But in Canada when a criminal did something like murdering someone they would be sent to jail for only a couple of years, then they would be released. So it wouldn't make sense if the criminal doesn't get punished but the victim did. So I suggest that Canada's law system should kind of be more like Mesopotamia's law system. But if a criminal were to steal, do illegal drugs, etc. then they should at least be sentence to jail for not too long. But if it was a really bad crime like murder, smuggling, etc. then they should be put to jail for at least 10 or more years and they should get punished like what they do in Mesopotamia. But I also like Mesopotamia's law system because if the criminal did something bad then they would get punished very harshly such as getting your hand cut off, getting drowned, etc. These laws are kind of good because it scares the criminal by not doing anymore bad crimes. But in Canada it is different, the criminal would go to jail then in a couple of years he/she would be released. But the criminal would not get any harsh punishments unlike Mesopotamia. In Mesopotamia the criminal would be punished very harshly then they would get really scared that they might not do the crime again. But in Canada the criminal would just go to jail then get out. So these are the reasons why I would change Canada's law system a little.
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Alysha
1/15/2014 04:51:08 pm
In my opinion Canada's law system is better then Mesopotamia's law system because women were not treated as equally as men. Today in our law system men and women are treated equally. Also offender convictions were more sever then they are today. Today when a offender commits a murder he is sometimes given less punishment then he deserves, or is let out of jail earlier then his given release date. When they are let off easy it gives them a chance to commit a crime again knowing that they will be let off easy once again and they will not learn their lesson. Most offenders in Canada tend to be young, disadvantaged males. Since Canada is now more modernized laws are becoming more lenient. I would want to change the laws in Canada and make them have set rules for every crime committed.
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